It's easiest to mix in a 1l Nalgene bottle, but make sure you mark the hell out of the bottle so it doesn't inadvertently get used for water afterward. within the Modern M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Hi guys, I might have this in the wrong section, but figured Modern M14's do use a suppressor alot.... so? Some manufacture recommended that you clean your suppressor every time you clean the muffler on your car. If the suppressor you buy is stainless steel or titanium you can use a liquid dip (hydrogen peroxide and vinegar) for cleaning, BUT it becomes lead acetate after cleaning and is considered hazmat. Gemtech recommends a 50/50 mix of automatic transmission fluid and mineral spirits, soaking for 24 hours, then scrubbing with your choice of cleaner. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range. I knew that wouldn't get the baffles completely clean, but figured, what the heck. So, after half a gazillion rounds, I decided it was time to clean my XCaliber Genesis .22LR can. After a few thousand rounds, it began to fill with lead and powder residue, as all .22 cans do. On sealed cans like my Thunder Beast 30-P1's,I just soak the whole thing in the Chem-Dip,and then stand them up on end and drain for … Top. That should be the way of cleaning for most of the “conventional” suppressor designs. Since these both can be rinsed with water (distilled for sealed units), they are economical. I have an all-aluminum sealed .22 can from An American Can manufacturer who shall remain nameless. Pro Shot Copper Solvent IV works very well on rimfire suppressors. Learn from my mistakes. Place only Steel items in the dip. There was some other "dip" recommended on here a long time ago. mpallett Elite Industry Professional Posts: 2876 Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:28 pm Location: MA. Anodized aluminum can still be attacked. This particular Dead Air Mask HD has been used for over a year on multiple host weapons. Use a tall cylinder to dip your cans. An aqueous solution of lead (II) acetate is the byproduct of a 1:1 ratio of hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar (acetic acid) used in the cleaning and maintenance of stainless steel firearm suppressors (silencers) and compensators. Soaking the brake or suppressor in C-4 carbon remover will speed up the time.The cheaper units are junk. Foaming bore cleaner and Pro Shot Copper Solvent IV are similar and benign to aluminum. Short baffles clean easier than tall. Cleaning a rimfire silencer is challenging because of two factors: what the fouling consists of and how it accrues. The first suppressor we decided to use was the excellent Stainless Sparrow from SilencerCo. It's a 50/50 mix of White Vinegar and Peroxide. We used a Hornady Magnum Sonic Cleaner with the Hornady gun cleaning solution. However it melted the coat hanger I used to hang the baffles on. Place only Steel items in the dip. Cuts the carbon/gook, and safe for aluminum (most carb's are aluminum). Not near as fun as shooting! I just soak them in the Chem-Dip for 24-48 hours and wipe off the pieces with a rag,the Thunder Beast cans are stood on end to drain out,and then I blow them out with my compressor. Allow the paste to sit for at least ten minutes. If noise continues, carry out suppressor cleaning and regeneration procedures per the manufacturer’s recommendations. Do not use peracetic acid to clean aluminum parts and aluminum baffles. In one of their recently published videos, OSS recommends the following procedure for cleaning their Helix-QD suppressors. Using this allows the carbon and lead to release easier. I recently purchased a TPM Firearms "SD" suppressor which is all aluminum except for the rear end cap, and it is user serviceable. suppressor. Using the "dip" is not needed in that case. Silencer Shop partnered up with SilencerCo to bring you an exclusive on how to clean your suppressor. Now what OSS Suppressors suggest as a cleaning procedure for their Helix-QD cans is quite different and very interesting. The heater feature was turned on to 140 degrees for all the testing. WARNING. I only clean ours about once a month, I first soak them in diesel fuel over night to loosen up the crud, then sonic clean them for three 4-minute cycles with the heater turned on, and then give them a quick rub with 0000 steel wool and done. Hoppes #9, CLP, acetone, paint thinner, soapy water, these options will aid in breaking up/removing the carbon without damaging your suppressor. After a cursory inspection of the build-up on the baffles, It was obvious that the only way to remove the lead build up was with the peracetic acid solution commonly known as the dip. You may have heard about the dip. Save solution in Tupperware , wipe bottom of cleaner with paper towel. Since the baffles are anodized 7075 Al (except the blast baffle), the dip is out, so I wanted to try out something else. Silencer manufacturers recommend ways to clean their rimfire and pistol products. It's used to remove carbon and crap from engines and is safe for aluminum. Leave for 6-12 hours. You’ll see SiCo’s Dewie Vieira and Josh “Beaver” Graham give you the dirty details on various ways to clean your silencer. Cleaning suppressors has always been a chore. I use "the dip". With a clean, soft cloth, buff the brass until it is dry. I had heard about "The Dip" from others and did a little research and ultimately decided to give it a shot despite the danger involved. Using small, circular motions, apply the paste in a thick layer onto the brass. Still, I'd love to hear any good cleaning suggestions as well. Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? All-stainless cans can sit in dip for a very long time - it's the optimum solution for getting lead fouling out of a sealed suppressor. within the Modern M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Hi guys, I might have this in the wrong section, but figured Modern M14's do use a suppressor alot.... so? That is a well known fact of life that everyone that shoots 22 long rifle through a suppressor is familiar with. This is a discussion on Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? I know, I … Increasing background and baseline noise Check and reduce excess back pressure (ensure that the conductivity cell is operating at recommended back pressure). I prepared a solution of 50% white vinegar and 50% hydrogen peroxide in a mason jar. Save solution in Tupperware , wipe bottom of cleaner with paper towel. It works great! All-stainless cans can sit in dip for a very long time - it's the optimum solution for getting lead fouling out of a sealed suppressor. Short baffles clean easier than tall. Save on fluid and keep it nice and tidy. The resulting mixture can then be used to dissolve the lead that is caked on stainless steel baffles. WARNING. I also have a pickle jar of some nasty stuff. Federalist shares the lessons he learnt about cleaning .22 suppressors … This is a big mistake for a .22LR suppressor, and here’s why: .22 rimfires are very dirty. When it comes to servicing a silencer, there are several options at your disposal to reach the end goal: a high-performing, fully-functioning can. Still, I'd love to hear any good cleaning suggestions as well. level 2 It must be capable of heating the solution to about 160-180 degrees F. Use a 50-50 solution of Simple Green. Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? Some manufacture recommended that you clean your suppressor every time you clean the muffler on your car. It's easiest to mix in a 1l Nalgene bottle, but make sure you mark the hell out of the bottle so it doesn't inadvertently get used for water afterward. Comprised of a mixture of carbon, a minimal amount of unburnt powder, and lead, fouling becomes problematic once the lead is evenly mixed with the carbon in vapor form. There was some other "dip" recommended on here a long time ago. What you need: Non-permeable gloves. You gotta be careful with the resulting chemical mixture after dropping the baffles in, though, because it creates Lead Acetate. The heater feature was turned on to 140 degrees for all the testing. On sealed cans like my Thunder Beast 30-P1's,I just soak the whole thing in the Chem-Dip,and then stand them up on end and drain for … No need for the ultrasonic cleaner though, just submerge the baffles/core in the solution and the lead will bubble and dissolve away in a few hours. Dead Air recommends a firearm solvent bath, tumbling in stainless media, ultrasonically cleaned, or The Dip. Dirty Rimfire; Clean Suppressor – Testing. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range. The two test setups are: Ruger MKIV Integral – TBA Suppressors Sicario Soaking the brake or suppressor in C-4 carbon remover will speed up the time.The cheaper units are junk. I have been cleaning all my Guardian cans in the sonic cleaner for about a year now without issues. I left out my normal coat of CLP pre-treatment to avoid any additional variables. Suppressor cleaning is a topic that regularly comes up, particularly when dealing with sealed suppressors that can’t be taken apart. 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"Dip" suppressor cleaning solution and aluminum parts - PSA. “The Dip” is created by mixing a 50/50 mixture of White Vinegar (Acetic Acid) with Hydrogen Peroxide. I worked great. Dirty Rimfire; Clean Suppressor – Testing. It must be capable of heating the solution to about 160-180 degrees F. Use a 50-50 solution of Simple Green. I always wondered if SeaFoam would work to clean aluminum suppressors. “The Dip” – A highly toxic and hazardous mixture that is used to dissolve lead deposits when cleaning suppressors. The cleaning of a “can” is sometimes a source of hot debate that might only be made hotter if you express favor for one handgun caliber over another, or perhaps one political candidate over another. I try my hand at cleaning my suppressor with an Ultrasonic cleaner. End Cap Strike – When a bullet damages a silencer’s end cap. End Cap – The muzzle end of the silencer. I used the vinager and hydrogen peroxide "dip". Using cool water, rinse the paste off. The first suppressor we decided to use was the excellent Stainless Sparrow from SilencerCo. Do you not like the dip because of the health hazards or because of the potential to damage the suppressor? However, it’s important to avoid damaging the suppressor itself and its components, which (unfortunately) is easily achieved when utilizing certain toxic chemicals and abrasive devices.As mentioned in last week’s post, rimfire cans are the main culprits in terms of dirtiness due to the filthy, unja… It just takes a rag to wipe them clean,no scrubbing or rubbing required on suppressors that come apart like the Varminter 3.0. I don't like keeping them dirty. You gotta be careful with the resulting chemical mixture after dropping the baffles in, though, because it creates Lead Acetate. Being as this is the beginning of a long term test, I started out with two clean and dry silencers. There are probably over 5000 rounds through it. Because I've had such a hassle cleaning my Ryder 22A suppressor just using normal cleaning solutions, out of desperation I have used the dip method of cleaning its baffles twice now. Obviously the lead acetate is dangerous, last time I titrated the remainder with an Epsom salt solution, which seemed to work. I … It also can't be used on aluminum parts, they will dissolve. I can take my Spectre II & Mack Brothers Varminter 3.0 apart,but both of my Thunder Beast 30P-1's I can't. Lemon Juice Brass Cleaner Rimfire suppressors get dirty. It is a highly toxic solution that will poison or kill you if handled incorrectly. I've read good things about Berrymman Chem-Dip carb cleaner. CCI Clean-22 High Velocity 22LR. Silencer manufacturers recommend ways to clean their rimfire and pistol products. This cleaning method may not be used for aluminum parts. Suppressors are often made from aluminum, stainless steels, titanium, and Inconel. The first time I only let the aluminum stay in the dip 1/2 an hour. Anyone every try this? Also, don't use ultrasonic cleaning on aluminum. This company suggest coating the suppressor in "anti spatter spray" used in the welding process. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2020 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. The Dead Air Mask He's front cap opened up easily. The dip works amazingly well for removing lead. Rimfire suppressors get dirty. Do NOT dip aluminum or any other non Steel metal. This particular Dead Air Mask HD has been used for over a year on multiple host weapons. They no have to be perfect but mine come clean with 6-8 cycles. I left out my normal coat of CLP pre-treatment to avoid any additional variables. CCI Clean-22 High Velocity 22LR. Check eluent and regenerant solution purity and flow. The two test setups are: Ruger MKIV Integral – TBA Suppressors Sicario Now, on to the tests! Federalist shares the lessons he learnt about cleaning .22 suppressors … This is a big mistake for a .22LR suppressor, and here’s why: .22 rimfires are very dirty. Dip a clean, soft microfiber cloth into the solution. My Spectre is in desperate need of cleaning. I don't like keeping them dirty. Afterwards use tongs or pliers to remove items and place in a bucket of water for rinse. Know what your suppressor is made of and choose appropriate cleaning aids. About 15 minutes and it will remove the carbon from anything. Over on SilencerTalk, the preferred method for cleaning any stainless baffles is what they've termed "The Dip". I've read good things about Berrymman Chem-Dip carb cleaner. Now, on to the tests! It will eat them. About 15 minutes and it will remove the carbon from anything. View Full Version : "Dip" suppressor cleaning solution and aluminum parts - PSA. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range! It just takes a rag to wipe them clean,no scrubbing or rubbing required on suppressors that come apart like the Varminter 3.0. Rob. I rather use sonic most of the year and maybes dip or blast once a year but if cleaning often no need! Eye Protection Long sleaves ~Gallon bucket Hydrogen Peroxide and Distilled Vinegar. Rimfire Suppressors. Constructed of Grade 9 Titanium, heat treated 17-4 PH stainless steel, and high strength hard coat anodized 7075-T6 aluminum alloy, You may have heard misinformation. Being as this is the beginning of a long term test, I started out with two clean and dry silencers. Cuts the carbon/gook, and safe for aluminum (most carb's are aluminum). I just cleaned my Spectre II the first time. 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